CourtTV10  : Hi all
Jlh414     : Hi mary jane
MRC1985    : Hi
Chachee2   : hi MJ!!
Go Leslie  : Hi..welcome
BABS1994   : how was court today?
CourtTV10  : so, what should we chat about tonite?
NCAPANTHER : Hi all...
BABS1994   : anything dramatic happen today?
Go Leslie  : I have lots of questions. How long are you here for?
Chachee2   : DO TELL, Mary Jane....what is happening in the 
             courtroom?
Jlh414     : what happened today
Plinkplunk : When's the last time you talked to bros directly?
CourtTV10  : Court today was a bit boring. the jury heard very 
                     little testimony cuz the lawyers argued
CourtTV10  : all day
CourtTV10  : I havent talked to either brother since our last chat
Go Leslie  : I like hearing the ...well, reading...the arguments
Go Leslie  : MJ, do you like my name?
BABS1994   : how does the jury seem to be reacting to all the 
                     testimony?
Jlh414     : what did you think of Eslamania
CourtTV10  : Yes love the name -- does it mean you're all for the 
                     defense?
Plinkplunk : From your reports it sounds like the prosecution is 
                    doing a lot better this time. Does it seem
NCAPANTHER : Does anyone know any case law concerning public k-           12 school fees creating a special class?
Go Leslie  : yes
Chachee2   : YESSSSSS
Plinkplunk : that way to you and what does the defense say about 
                     it?
Chachee2   : NCA....this is a Menendez chat.....
CourtTV10  : I thought Eslaminia was quite a character very 
                     interesting too bad no camera did you read 
CourtTV10  : the testimony?
Baja Beach : How much longer until the People rest their case in 
                    chief?
NCAPANTHER : ok...thanks....
Chachee2   : YEs MJ....he was a wierdo
Go Leslie  :   I read it, MJ. What a weirdo.
BABS1994   : eslamania seems quite peculiar
Go Leslie  :    GMTA, chach
CourtTV10  : The people plan to rest after next week they just 
                     have a few more witnesses
Chachee2   : whats this about FEET IN HIS FACE?  LOL
Go Leslie  : MJ, any observations you have had about the jury?
JudgeWanaB : MJ---i saw eslaminia at the criminal courts bldg when 
             he came to meet w/Conn....
BABS1994   : did the jury laugh at eslamania?
Chachee2   : good...WHEW
CourtTV10  : Eslaminia was indeed peculiar, but fascinating as 
                     well....you know he is the brother of
JudgeWanaB : and he was sooooo creeeeeeeeepy!!!!!
Chachee2   :  I think we are going to fast.....should we just do 
                     one question at a time?
Plinkplunk : Mary Jane you were there for the first time around. 
                    Do you think this Prosecution is more damaging?
CourtTV10  : Reza Eslaminia, convicted of killing their dad in 
                    Billionaire boys club
Go Leslie  :   Reza, yes, we know
Baja Beach :  How did the jury react to the 12/11 tape?
CourtTV10  : Jury didnt laugh at Eslaminia -- they took lots of 
                     notes
Go Leslie  :    botched kidnapping.
CourtTV10  : yes you
Chachee2   : oh great
Go Leslie  :   yes you what?
CourtTV10  : Re going a bit fast -- you know me...slow poke 
                     especially after a long day in court
BABS1994   : one question at a time, please let MJ catch up
Chachee2   :   go ahead and catch up...
CourtTV10  : Jury took loads of notes on 12/11 tape i think it was 
                     much more effective this time
Go Leslie  :    sorry..
CourtTV10  : because prosecutors got to play it in their case in chief
CourtTV10  : okay i caught up
Baja Beach : You mean the prosecution's method was effective in 
                   presenting it?
Baja Beach : thanks :)
Go Leslie  :  OK. Is Erik better?
CourtTV10  : Let's just say it did not get the defense spin it got 
                     last time when it was presented
BABS1994   : how, in general is the jury reacting--can you tell?
CourtTV10  : While Dr. Burgess was on the stand for defense
Go Leslie  :     I thought Burgess was ineffective the first time with 
                     that tape. I can't see how it makes much..
Baja Beach :   Do you think the defense will play the tape again to 
                     wear it down, so to speak?
Go Leslie  :    difference.
CourtTV10  : It's hard to read the jury/ they are taking notes, 
                    watching everything intently...but I can't 
Go Leslie  :    The bros can go through it line by line.
CourtTV10  : tell yet who's for state and who's for defense
Plinkplunk : Are they going to bring in the issue of  ERik's 
                    homosexuality as they threatened last time
CourtTV10  : What does that mean? line by line?
Go Leslie  :    Plink, you mean his ALLEGED...
Plinkplunk : right
Go Leslie  :   The bros can testify to that tape, line by line, what 
                    they meant.
CourtTV10  : Don't know about Erik's sexuality but Conn didn't 
                    mention in openings so I doubt it
Baja Beach : I mean play it again so the gory effect wears off.
MRC1985    : Approx. how many witnesses are on the prosec. case vs 
                    the defense? Was this list presented
MRC1985    : to the jury?
Go Leslie  :    baja, it wasn't gory.
Chachee2   :  do you think Lyle willl testify, Mary Jane?
CourtTV10  : Yes the brothers can testify about the tape line by line 
                     and there are indeed lines that seem
CourtTV10  : exculpatory
BABS1994   : how are conn and najera coming off in the courtroom? 
                     hard to tell from the transcripts
CourtTV10  : Conn is keeping his cool. Najera and Leslie sometimes 
                     go at it but they are a good match
Go Leslie  :     Mary Jane, is (Judge) Stan(Weisberg) completely po'd              
                     with the prosecutors yet?
Chachee2   : I think Najera is a whiney little......
BABS1994   : carol seems a little dense in the transcripts--is the 
                     judge condescending toward her?
CourtTV10  : Najera seems to be questioning most of the witnesses. 
                    can't figure out why
Baja Beach : Sorry, MJ, but CTV never gave a indept jury profile. 
                    Can you tell us about each one??? ;-)
Plinkplunk : What is the bros demeanor like -- does it mirror last 
                    time when they seemed kind of blank?
Go Leslie  :    Her questions are often unintelligible to me.
CourtTV10  : It seems Weisberg is exasperated with the prosecutors 
                     because they keep failing to turn over
CourtTV10  : discovery
Baja Beach :  Like the jurors' demeanor.
Chachee2   :  I noticed that, MJ
Go Leslie  :   Yes, MJ. Why doesn't he just preclude stuff?
Chachee2   : Leslie seems a bit PO'ed too
BABS1994   : Is that why stan decided to be a prosecutor and ask 
                     questions too?
Baja Beach :  LOL Babs
CourtTV10  : Erik broke down crying in court the other day and I 
                    couldn't figure out why but Leslie (Abramson) said
CourtTV10  : he's already fed up and she said "he's sick of people 
                     lying on the stand about him"
Go Leslie  :     Is he better now?
Chachee2   :   I am too
BABS1994   : Lyle should be the one crying then
CourtTV10  : I suspect he will preclude stuff eventually. today he 
                    barred much of uncle Brian Andersen's
JudgeWanaB : Leslie has said she "hates" the media...does she seem 
                     friendly towards you?
Chachee2   : GREAT!
CourtTV10  : testimony until defense can catch up because they got
                    the info so late -- just this morning
Go Leslie  :    MJ, but preclude..for good?
BABS1994   : Brian Anderson seemed peculiar to me last time--isnt 
                     he a bit odd?
Chachee2   : why do they keep doing that?  He better start 
                    sanctioning them or something....
Go Leslie  :   no, if they can still bring it in, that's not 
                    precluding it.
MRC1985    : Mary Jane, how many witnesses does the prosec. have 
                    on their list vs the defense?
CourtTV10  : Leslie generally is friendly toward me. But if I get 
                    in her way on a bad day -- watch out!!!
BABS1994   : why doesnt CTV give you more time to sum up what 
                     happens daily, MJ?
CourtTV10  : No, not preclude for good, just till the defense can 
                     properly prepare cross exam
Chachee2   : Yeah, MJ....why only 5 minutes each night?
CourtTV10  : Well, this is tv and everything is short. also, 
                    because there is no video, it gets boring
Baja Beach : MJ, can you give a us some jury profiles?
CourtTV10  : Just having a talking head. So they give me about 3-5 
                    minutes per night
Go Leslie  :   MJ, have you talked to Barry Levin at all? How does 
                   he seem to you?
BABS1994   : it is not boring to a lot of people--tell them that 
                    is the only reason I am watching
Plinkplunk : How are the LA papers covering the trial. Press seems 
                    to have lost interest..
CourtTV10  : Barry Levin is a great lawyer and very friendly. he 
                    helps out whenever I have a question
CourtTV10  : He is going to examine Erik, you know.
Go Leslie  :    Yes, I heard that in Les's opening.
CourtTV10  : Slow down so i can give jury profiles
Chachee2   :  MJ.....do you think Lyle will testify?
MRC1985    : May I get a question in here to Mary Jane you guys? 
                    PLEASE?
JudgeWanaB : MJ--do you know the questions the anchor will ask 
                      beforehand somehow?
Baja Beach : :)
CourtTV10  : LA Daily News is covering it daily....the (LA) Times 
                    covers it only when there's new testimony
CourtTV10  : Let's see, the jury is made up of five women, seven 
                     men, all age ranges. there is one guy
Serenity64 : MRC  - nobody is stopping you from asking questions
CourtTV10  : who is 25 -- just out of law school and waiting for 
                     bar results he lives with his parents
Chachee2   :  go MRC
BABS1994   : and they let the law guy on the jury?
Go Leslie  :     interesting...
Go Leslie  :     same age as Erik, then. about
CourtTV10  : My guess is that Lyle won't testify but its only based 
                    on my gut instinct because his lawyers
CourtTV10  : won't say
JudgeWanaB : MJ--think the LawyerWanaB will be the foreman?  
                      Predictions!!
Baja Beach : ...and the other men?
Go Leslie  :     How about educational levels? any info?
Chachee2   :  what about the other male jurors?
Baja Beach :  I think the lawyer guy (25) will be an asset to the 
                    defense.
CourtTV10  : Yes, the lawyer wannabe or the 37-year old computer 
                     guy who seems real intent and
CourtTV10  : leaderly like
JudgeWanaB : MJ---i like your honesty.  :)
Baja Beach :   What's his screen name..LOL
Go Leslie  :     Is he the one who wanted to ask a quewstion during 
                     Witkin's teestimony???
Plinkplunk :  Is there the kind of support -- people standing 
                    outside court, writing letters, etc as last year?
CourtTV10  : Most of them have little or no college .... although 
                    a couple have post-graduate degrees
Go Leslie  :    any postal workers?? (he he he)
BABS1994   : yeah, what was that deal about the jury wanting to 
                     ask a question?
CourtTV10  : All of them describe themselves as middle class 
                     except the lawyer wannabe who says he's
CourtTV10  : rich
Baja Beach : Hmm ..interesting.  It will be interesting to see how 
                    they educated vs uneducated deliberate
JudgeWanaB : MJ---is he single, too??  {pant pant}
Rugido     :      hello
BABS1994   : Jury is all white?
CourtTV10  :  Don't know about jury wanting to ask question. can you 
                      elaborate
Go Leslie  :     MRC, so  what did you wanna ask?
CourtTV10  : Who? the lawyer wannabe? yes he is
CourtTV10  : There is one African-American woman and a Hispanic 
                   man and a Chinese woman
Go Leslie  :   MJ, one of the jurors wanted to ask a question during 
                    Howard Witkin's tesimony.
MRC1985    : Thank you. Approx. how many witnesses does the 
                    prosec. have vs the defense?
Chachee2   :  Judge...lets go find him...
JudgeWanaB : MJ---maybe i'll catch up w/him when he's not so busy. 
                      tee hee.
BABS1994   : It was in the transcripts that a juror sent a note 
                     asking the judge to ask a question
JudgeWanaB : ok Chach!!  whoever gets there first, wins!!!
Go Leslie  :       Hi D. Didn't see you come in.
CourtTV10  :    I know nothing about that because I was in San
                       Francisco and my friend Sharon was covering for me
MRC1985    :   This jury seems to be much more involved in the 
                     process. They want answers.
Chachee2   :   hi DS
CourtTV10  : The defense most likely will have many more than the 
                     state -- state has 27 so far
D Skeptic  :    Hi guys!
JudgeWanaB : MJ--San Francisco?  See those great sisters of 
                      yours??  :)
Baja Beach : LOL Babs
Chachee2   : I'll help you out...MJ
Plinkplunk :  Mary Jane, is there the kind of "fan" reaction there 
                     was last year at court?
CourtTV10  : yes, to see my sisters
Go Leslie  :    MJ, why do think they had a handwriting espert to 
                    verify what Erik was gonna admit anyway?
Baja Beach : So, did we cover all the jurors?
CourtTV10  : Not as many fans but the die hards still come every 
                    day without fail
BABS1994   : how is Charlie Gessler doing? what are your 
                     impressions of him?
CourtTV10  : They can't count on Erik admitting it so they must 
                     prove everything anyway
Go Leslie  :     Well, I think he admitted it last time, didn't he?
CourtTV10  : Charlie seems to be dealing well with a lot of new 
                     bad evidence against Lyle he is a great
Baja Beach : Well, they have to don't they.  Otherwise, they don't 
                    meet their burden of proof.
CourtTV10  : Cross-examiner -- short and right to the point. I 
                    enjoy watching him
BABS1994   : was Jamie P (Pisarcik) squirming in her seat?
BABS1994   : what was the crying thing about with Jamie?
CourtTV10  : Jamie started crying actually when (defense attorney)    
                     Terry Towery asked 
                     about her mother who is very ill
Chachee2   :  why did she ask that?
CourtTV10  : It was really a sad moment in the courtroom she tried 
                     to gain composure but couldn't
Go Leslie  :    Wasn't it that her mother may testify against her..or 
                    something?
BABS1994   : I guess Jamie knew when spring was this time around?
CourtTV10  : So she asked for a break and practically bolted out 
                    of court, passing her ex-fiancee
JudgeWanaB : MJ--what was Lyle's reaction to Jamie crying??
Chachee2   :   That may look bad to the jury...like the defense was 
                     picking on her
Go Leslie  :     I wonder how her horse show went.
CourtTV10  : Lyle just stared at her it was really intense and 
                     Jamie refused to look at him even thought
BABS1994   : good question--how did Lyle react or did he?
CourtTV10  : He was just feet away from her
Chachee2   : :) Go...Tsk
Go Leslie  : giddya up
D Skeptic  : Sorry I came late.  MJ, when will Dr. McCarthy 
                  testify.  I can't seem to find out?
Chachee2   : Well, I wouldn't look at him either....if my name was 
                   Jamie or Norma or Martha or....
Go Leslie  :  After a coroner.
CourtTV10  : He watched her intently the whole time, it seemed 
                     pathetic to see him there in court
JudgeWanaB : MJ---do you think Jamie is telling the truth about 
                      Lyle sending her for those court cases??
CourtTV10  : and to see her having gotten on with her life and got 
                    married and all
Go Leslie  :   she got married?
Chachee2   : married???
D Skeptic  : I'd like to know what day for McCarthy.  I'm thinking 
                  of coming to see the testimony.
Chachee2   : to that one guy?
CourtTV10  : She really was damaged on cross about those court 
                    cases it seems a bit fishy to me
MRC1985    : Mary Jane, will author BOB RAND BE TESTIFYING this 
                     TIME?
Serenity64 : poor guy
Go Leslie  :    oooo, good. fishy is good
Chachee2   :  if was fishy last time.....
CourtTV10  : Mc Carthy is scheduled to go last so maybe next 
                     Friday I guess
Chachee2   :  good one MRC
JudgeWanaB : MJ---me too.  (GMTA)  :)
Go Leslie  :    Jamies is fishy.
Baja Beach :  MJ, has the court ruled on the Failure Analysis 
                    demonstration, and is it going to be admiss?
CourtTV10  : oh, Friday is dark....maybe Thursday
D Skeptic  : Thanks!
Chachee2   : MJ.....is Rand going to testify?
BABS1994   : no court on Friday?
MRC1985    : Thank you Chachee2
Go Leslie  : IS Rand sorta pro-defense or can't you tell?
CourtTV10  : Failure analysis is admissible as of now....defense 
                     wants it to come in so they can destroy
CourtTV10  : it on cross
JudgeWanaB : MJ--Does Norma Novelli ever show up in court this 
                       time??
Chachee2   :     she shouldn't
Go Leslie  :      I can't wait to see it demolished.
BABS1994   : so the prosecution is not bringing out (coroner Irwin)
                     Golden?
CourtTV10  : No, Norma is conspicuously absent from court
D Skeptic  :   Right.  I think defense will demolish! McCaarthy
Chachee2   : me either Go
Baja Beach : The testimony or the actual demo is admissible?
Go Leslie  :   No Golden.
Go Leslie  :   No Lacksmanan.
CourtTV10  : Prosecutors don't want to call golden or any ME from 
                    that office if you can imagine that
Go Leslie  :    Some dude named Lawrence.
Chachee2   :  MJ....about RAND?
BABS1994   : how is the Prosec. bringing in the medical testimony?
Go Leslie  :  I can't imagine it, Mary J, and I CAN imagine the 
                   defense will get mileage out of it.
CourtTV10  : It is unheard of not to call a coroner in a murder 
                     trial and the defense will call him
D Skeptic  :   I'm surprise Stan didn't decide HE could verify the 
                    coronor's report.  He's doing the 10/ll
D Skeptic  :  tape.
Go Leslie  :  Good pt, D.
Chachee2   : LOL DS
CourtTV10  : Lawrence is a private pathologist -- hired gun
Go Leslie  :    12/11....oh, the undated 12/11 tape. HA HA
Chachee2   :   isn't that interesting?
BABS1994   : so the Defense will call Golden?
CourtTV10  : Good point D
Go Leslie  :    MJ, and, according to Leslie, this Lawrence dude 
                    doesn't agree with the failure people, either.
CourtTV10  : Defense will call Golden and that, to me, seems to be 
                    something that will make the state
CourtTV10  : look weird at least
BABS1994   : good. the state needs to look weird
D Skeptic  :   You betcha!
Go Leslie  :    the defense also has Cyril Wecht on their side
CourtTV10  : Leslie says Lawrence doesn't agree with failure, but 
                    Conn says he does so they'll have to
Go Leslie  :   and Michael Baden, correct?
CourtTV10  :  duke it out in court
D Skeptic  :    And the unfortuante Michael Baden.
CourtTV10  : And michael baden -- correct
Baja Beach :  Has the defense indicated that they will call any NEW 
                    witnesses in this retrial?
BABS1994   : Baden was on Larry King tonight--he didnt mention he 
                     was with Menendez
Go Leslie  :   Right, MJ. Did you think it odd that Leslie talked 
                    to Lawrence before the Pros did?
JudgeWanaB : Maybe they can ask Golden about his "let's kill some 
                     lawyers" comment...
CourtTV10  : Yes, the defense has some new witnesses -- experts in 
                    ballistics and crime scene analysis
Go Leslie  :    the transcripts said "Boden", so I wasn't sure.
CourtTV10  : to rebut failure analysis
BABS1994   : how many psych experts for the defense?
CourtTV10  : I didn't know she did, GO
CourtTV10  : no, it's Baden
Go Leslie  :   How about family members? anybody new gonna
                   testify?
D Skeptic  : Is the prosecution calling ANY psych. expert?
Plinkplunk : Any new evidence concerning sexual abuse?
Baja Beach : Any new witnesses to support their defense beyond 
                    failure analysis?
CourtTV10  : I cant remember how many psych experts, but
                    Weisberg wants to limit them if he can
D Skeptic  : Has any prosec. psych. person examined the brothers 
                  yet?
Go Leslie  : it sounded to me like Les had talked with Lawrence 
                  before the pros did. I could be wrong
CourtTV10  : Prosecutors want to call Park Dietz
D Skeptic  :    Did he examine them?
CourtTV10  : Park Dietz wants to examine the brothers but can't until 
                     they put their state of mind at issue
Plinkplunk : Isn't park dietz a forensic shrink who is an expert 
                   on serial killers?
BABS1994   : I thought they couldnt do Dietz until the Bros bring 
                    in their mental state
Go Leslie  :    I don't think so, D. I think we woulda heard
D Skeptic  :   Okay.  So we have to wait on Dietz.
Go Leslie  :    Dietz is the mastermind who testified that Jeffrey 
                    Dahmer was NOT insane.
CourtTV10  : Yes -- Dietz testified against Betty Broderick and 
                     the lovely Jeffrey Dahmer
Baja Beach :  Based on the Court's ruling thus far on the People's 
                    evidence, can you guess the # of
Baja Beach :  limiting instructions?
Go Leslie  :    baja, well, he's been doing that as they go.
CourtTV10  : There were a dozen jsut this week
Baja Beach :  Yeah...but how many so far?
Baja Beach :  thanks :-)
BABS1994   : sounds like grounds for appeal to me
Go Leslie  :    a bunch, baja. read the scripts, man.
Baja Beach :  great!
CourtTV10  : Don't know exact count -- good question. why doesnt 
                    one of you check the transcript
Baja Beach : Sorry, don't have time to read.
Go Leslie  : MJ, do you also speak with Conn and/or Najera?
BABS1994   : so how does this trial compare to the first one so 
                    far, MJ?
Plinkplunk : Have you heard of new evidence of sexual abuse?
CourtTV10  : Yes I speak with all the lawyers....they're all very 
                    approachable
JudgeWanaB : we're still here, MJ----you've got us spellbound.  :)
Go Leslie  :    But Mary, is Conn as obnoxious in person?
BABS1994   : Is conn as obnoxious when he isnt addressing the 
                     court?
CourtTV10  : This trial is much different in that the state's case 
                     in chief deals with Lyle and Erik's claims of
Go Leslie  :     hmmm...obnoxious.....
CourtTV10  : abuse etc, by saying up front the brothers lied about 
                    everything
Chachee2   :  that could backfire, MJ
Serenity64 : arrogant is a better term , babs
Baja Beach : MJ, what else do the People plan to offer in the 
                   final week of their case in cheif?
BABS1994   : ok arrogant and obnoxious
CourtTV10  : Conn is not obnoxious... he's pretty cool for a 
                    prosecutors
Chachee2   : calling them liars so much....if someone does believe 
                   them.....Conn is sunk
Go Leslie  : I seem to recall that the first time around, the pros 
                  thought they were doing a smashing job...
Go Leslie  :  too, at this point in their case.
CourtTV10  : People really only have left Lawrence and failure 
                    analysis....not really anything else
Plinkplunk : I think it is worse this time around -- because of 
                    Lyle's letter writing
CourtTV10  : Of course there's Marzi Eisenberg and more Brian 
                    Andersen tomorrow
Baja Beach :  So, they want that to be the proverbial "leaving with 
                    a bang"....please excuse the pun. :-)
Chachee2   : Marzi.....that is all hearsay.....why is that 
                   allowed?
Go Leslie  :   I find David Conn to be extremely arrogant, and not 
                  very bright.
BABS1994   : I dont understand why the Pros is bringing some of 
                     these witnesses
CourtTV10  : There's a lot more damaging evidence against lyle 
                    this time around. Erik remains about the same unless
                    he is hurt by Lyle's shenanigans
Serenity64 : Other than Erik's crying day - how do L/E act in 
                    court?
D Skeptic  :   Conn's opening statement was a tremendous distortion.
D Skeptic  :   Truely dishonest.
Go Leslie  :   I wonder if Marzi has had any further recollections 
                  in the past few days?
D Skeptic  : He implied the brothers sought out a probate attny.  
                  But the wife happened to wander by.
CourtTV10  : Lyle and Eik seem bored -- sometimes they look 
                     worried, but that's only my perception
JudgeWanaB : MJ--is Terry "motherly" towards Lyle, the way Leslie 
                     was last time towards Erik??
D Skeptic  :  He  implied the brothers initiated lugging off the 
                   safe.  But R. Wright did.
BABS1994   : I cant imagine they would be bored--this is their 
                     lives
Chachee2   : I can't even imagine sitting there all day every day 
                   and not being able to talk!
Go Leslie  : I suppose they are anxious for their case to 
                  begin..the defense case.
Plinkplunk : How do they react to the descriptions of their 
                   parents death?
CourtTV10  : yes -- the other day when he came out of the lock up, 
                    Terry said why is your hair all wet
CourtTV10  : and it reminded me of a mom
Go Leslie  :    SO, why was his hair all wet?
Chachee2   :  Is Henry going to testify?
Serenity64 :  why was his hair all wet?
JudgeWanaB :  MJ---so, just how does a toupee get wet??  ;-)
Go Leslie  :      god this is funny.
CourtTV10  :  Erik still gets upset when they talk about or show 
                     crime scene, etc
Chachee2   :  he does have hair....
CourtTV10  : Don't know why his hair was all wet
CourtTV10  : I doubt Henry will testify
CourtTV10  : dont know how a toupee gets wet
D Skeptic  :  Leslie mentioned E. under psych. care and drugs.  How 
                   much drugs?
Go Leslie  :  Does Stan ever talk with the bros off the record or 
                   is it strictly business?
Chachee2   : how is Henry involved in the Eslaminia stuff?
D Skeptic  : What are the drugs for?
BABS1994   : did Jamie give the toupee story again?
Plinkplunk : So can you share your thoughts about whether or not 
                    you believe the abuse occured as they describe?
JudgeWanaB : MJ---do you think Dan Abrams might be able to tell us 
                      why??  (hint hint?)
CourtTV10  : probably just the usual xanax
Baja Beach : MJ, just out of curiosity, does Stan ever argue with 
                   lawyers other than Leslie Abramson?
CourtTV10  : I don't know, but did you see, Henry got booted out of 
                    court during Eslaminia testimony
CourtTV10  : I asked him why later and he said he has no idea why
MRC1985    : Is Robert Rand going to testify, MARY JANE?
Baja Beach : that's interesting
Chachee2   : yes, that is why I wondered
BetsyH7299 : Does anyone want to talk about the DiPaoulo trial?
BABS1994   : no, we cant really see anything MJ
CourtTV10  : No jamie didnt give the toupee stoy
MRC1985    : Betsy, we are discussing Menendez.
Go Leslie  : Betsy, try room 2 please
CourtTV10  : Yes, Weisberg argues with prosecutors....he seems to 
                    like Charlie Gessler alot
CourtTV10  : Bob Rand may testify again
MRC1985    : She must have conveniently forgotten.
MRC1985    : Thanks Mary Jane.
MRC1985    : Jamie, that is.
JudgeWanaB : MJ---you think they left the toupee story out because 
                      of questions about the date, or what?
Baja Beach :    Do you think Charlie comes across well to jurors 
                     also?
Chachee2   : she didn't know when or where or why she was talking 
                   to Erik....LOL
Go Leslie  :   Mary jane, how did Grant Frederick Johnson Walker 
                   come across this time?
Plinkplunk : why didn't she give the toupee story, isn't that a 
                     big deal? Because she couldn't remember dates?
CourtTV10  : I think they left it out because it became a ridiculous 
                    sideshow first time around. But I  don't
D Skeptic  :   Jill demolisted Jamie on the date of the toupee 
                   thing.
BABS1994   : so the jury doesnt know lyle wears a toupee yet?
Go Leslie  :     the toupee was rebutal last time.
Chachee2   :  yes, they talked about it, I think.....Babs
CourtTV10  : Know that they won't bring it up again to talk about 
                     final fight that led to weekend from hell
Baja Beach : Good point, Babs.
Go Leslie  : Babs, I'm sure EVERYONE knows it by now
D Skeptic  : They mentioned toupee in opening , BAbs.
Plinkplunk : Mary Jane, can you say what you think about the abuse 
             defense?
Chachee2   : we tried that last time, Plink
Plinkplunk : Oh sorry.
BABS1994   : it is a fear defense
Go Leslie  : Plink, now, now, it's NOT an abuse defense
Chachee2   : :) that is ok....
CourtTV10  : I think it is a valid defense, given the law in 
                   Calif. If it's true they were abused and in
D Skeptic  : Plink, it is not an abuse defense.
MRC1985    : GQ article on Leslie: any comments?
CourtTV10  : fear, they should be entitled to that defense but 
                    prosecutors are also entitled to try to
CourtTV10  : prove they're lying
Chachee2   :  she sounded resigned to them not getting a good 
                   verdict, MRC
Go Leslie  :  MJ, but should they be able to show they're lying 
                   before they even testify??
CourtTV10  : By the way, I hate the term abuse excuse -- because 
                    this defense is based on valid
MRC1985    : I also got that impression, Chachee.
CourtTV10  : California law
Chachee2   : I like what Leslie said about Najera....
MRC1985    : Good to hear you say that MJ
Chachee2   : GOOD MJ....
Go Leslie  : Ms Hairnet is nuts...
CourtTV10  : Well, they spelled out their defense in openings, so 
                     I think prosecutors should be able
Chachee2   : DershoTWIT's stupid book
Go Leslie  : oh, hey, that reminds me
CourtTV10  : to present evidence to the contrary
MRC1985    : Sold about as much as Novelli's - LOL
Go Leslie  : But it's not evidence...
Baja Beach : MJ....What's the possibility of the jury getting the 
                      case before the new year?
CourtTV10  : What did Leslie say about Najera?
Chachee2   : how does one contradict a witness to a grown man 
                    punching a little boy in the stomach??
Go Leslie  :   MJ, has Ms. najera worn any more of those hairnet 
                   thingies in court?
CourtTV10  : I don't think jury will get the case before the end of 
                    February at least!!!
Chachee2   :  "She is nuts".....utterly inappropriate woman
Go Leslie  :    also, Leslie said that Carol was "not well"
D Skeptic  :  How does one contradict TWO coursins who describe 
                   "penis" talk YEARS before.
Baja Beach :  Really?  You think the defense case and all the 
                    rebuttal witnesses will take that long?
Go Leslie  :   also called Dominck Dunne a few choice words.
CourtTV10  : yes---remember, the defense case lasted four months 
                    last time
MRC1985    : Every chance she gets :-}
BABS1994   : Dunne is not in the courtroom for the trial?
CourtTV10  : what do those symbols mean?
Go Leslie  :    MJ, do you think Leslie can wear down Stan and get 
                     most of the same stuff in again?
MRC1985    : sideways smile :-}
Baja Beach : what symbols?
CourtTV10  : Dunne is in europe, after just having celebrated his 
                     70th birthday
Baja Beach :  LOL
Chachee2   : :) smiles
D Skeptic  :     If you tilt your head to left, it's a smile, MJ
BABS1994   : I hope Dunne stays there
Chachee2   :  good riddance
CourtTV10  : Probably Leslie will get in most of what she wants 
                     in...although she'll never admit it
Go Leslie  :   MJ, did you think Dunne was fair in his coverage last 
                    time?? (I obviously didn't)
BABS1994   : why doesnt rand publish that book he's been working 
                     on for years?
CourtTV10  : That's cute -- the symbols
Plinkplunk : MJ are you covering this only for Court TV or in 
                    print as well?
CourtTV10  : is that really what they mean
JudgeWanaB : MJ---join us sometime in Chat Room 2, when you're 
                      free, we'll teach you lotsa symbols!
Baja Beach : Has the defense indicated that their case will take 
                   until February?
D Skeptic  : I head Rand's book is boring.  It's as simple as 
                   that.
Chachee2   : yes MJ
BABS1994   : what was the deal with the prosecution stealing 
                     Rand's manuscript?
Go Leslie  :     Yes, MJ. :) is a smile.
CourtTV10  : Well, dunne never pretended to be objective, so 
                    that's fair, i guess
Baja Beach : Did they really Babs?
CourtTV10  : Only for court tv
CourtTV10  : yes -- defense says at least till Feb
BABS1994   : show MJ your special symbol, Baja
D Skeptic  : Someone ripped off Rand and sent the MS to the 
                   prosecution.
Go Leslie  : Dunne claimed to be telling the truth, though, and he 
                  wasn't
Baja Beach : :-P
Baja Beach : LOL
Baja Beach : that one babs?
Chachee2   : Has Leslie's behavior changed any?  I read that she 
                   was going to clean her act up a bit.....
Go Leslie  :   that's someone sticking out their tongue. :P
BABS1994   : do get what thay symbol is, MJ?
Chachee2   : due to Marcia Clark...
CourtTV10  : Rand's manuscript somehow wound up in hands of 
                     prosecutors and he's really mad
CourtTV10  : he says he may sue
BABS1994   : you really must keep up with this computer stuff
Chachee2   : i hope he does
D Skeptic  :   Sue who?  He doesn't know who did it does he?
Go Leslie  :    silly point, but...is leslie's hair back to normal?
CourtTV10  : Leslie is much more calm, but still as intense a 
                     lawyer as ever -- she is so prepared
BABS1994   : how does rand earn a living? what does he do 
                     regularly?
Baja Beach : It's Baja stikcing his tongue out at you!  LOL 
                    (laughing out loud)
Plinkplunk : Chachee -- what was the reference to Marcia Clark re 
                   Leslie?
CourtTV10  : Leslie's hair depends on whether she was on tv the 
                     night before
BABS1994   : are there many media people in the courtroom?
CourtTV10  : He wants to sue whomever gave prosecutors the 
                    manuscript
Go Leslie  : MJ, do you think Leslie will be able to sit back 
                   while Barry questions Erik?
Chachee2   : she didn't like the way Marcia acted at times and was 
                    going to do everything she
Plinkplunk : Babs Rand is a journalist who used to work for the 
                    Miami herald
Chachee2   : could to NOT do the same thing
BABS1994   : what did you think about Stan banning the camera?
CourtTV10  : Rand freelances for magazines....heard he might do a 
                      story for Rolling Stone
BABS1994   : yeah, I know what rand used to do--what does he do 
                     now?
Baja Beach : How many media reps are in the courtroom.
D Skeptic  :  Yes, about the seating.  Is the public seating full 
                   every day?  Or is the room empty?
Chachee2   : newspaper reports say it is half empty
BABS1994   : is the menendez family there regularly?
Go Leslie  : Is Gramma Menendez there every day?
Chachee2   : are their aunts there?
CourtTV10  : I think it will be hard for Leslie to sit and watch 
                     Barry...but she knows he's a great lawyer
Chachee2   : cousins?
Plinkplunk :  do you hear if they're still getting mail from 
                    supporters anymore?
Baja Beach : Are there any seating vacancies for AOL 
                   groupies???;-)
CourtTV10  :  I think Weisberg really violated the first amendment 
                    when he banned us from court
Chachee2   : LOL BB
Go Leslie  :   Baja, are you a groupie??
Chachee2   : I actually think it was for the best....though I 
                    scream and cry LOUDLY
Baja Beach :  Me, a groupie? NO way....I was just...uh.....:-)
Serenity64 :  no groupies allowed - only open minded people
CourtTV10  : There are about five media people who go every day 
                    and others wander in at their whim
D Skeptic  :   I'm personally glad you aren't there, though.  L and 
                    E shouldn't be public entertainment.
Go Leslie  :  MJ, but do you think it is better for the brothers 
                   this way?
CourtTV10  : there are usally seating vacancies
JudgeWanaB : Baja--you are an MJ groupie, right??  ;-)
Baja Beach : Right!  I'm a MJ groupie :-Ppp
CourtTV10  : It's not about entertainment, it's about public 
                    access to courts we pay for
Serenity64 : watch that tongue bb
Plinkplunk : qq
Plinkplunk : that was my cat sorry
Baja Beach : MJ, can I have your e-mail address? :-))
Go Leslie  : MJ, why does Rikki have to use the word "slaughter" 
                 everytime she introduces the case on CTV?
CourtTV10  : Do you know how much taxpayer money is being spent 
                    in Dept N? it's necessary that
D Skeptic  : Thought sounds good, but I think they are in jail (no 
                   plea bargain) because of TV.
CourtTV10  : the public can see how its spend
Go Leslie  :   or, "brutally murdered". or whatever the heck word 
                   she uses
Serenity64 : why is the work Murder used on court tv in reference 
                    to the killings?
Serenity64 : word not work (sorry)
BABS1994   : yeah, tell those CTV anchors to be less biased
Go Leslie  : I think they shoulda just plead out hte case.
D Skeptic  : Yeah. Rikki definitely wants to see them "get it."
CourtTV10  : I absolutely disagree that they're in jail because of 
                    TV... There's been no plea bargains
Chachee2   : it should be HOMICIDE
Baja Beach : LOL Seren.
CourtTV10  : because Garcetti and Leslie will never meet halfway
Baja Beach : It is homicide....you mean Manslaughter. :-)
D Skeptic  :   Meet halfway where?  Would garcetti go for second on 
                    Lyle?
Chachee2   : There should have been a plea bargain after the last 
                    trial
BABS1994   : the pros should have offered a plea after the 
                    mistrial
Go Leslie  :    But Garcetti wants to win, with a 1st degree, no 
                    less. Is this not correct?
CourtTV10  : I don't think I use the word murder --- I'm very 
                    conscious of that...I'll alert the masses not
CourtTV10  : to use it either --- good point
BABS1994   : if this wasnt high profile, Garcetti might have
JudgeWanaB : "killings" would work
MRC1985    : This is DEFINITELY Garcetti's last hurrah, isn't it? 
                     Having lost OJ and all.
Chachee2   : I know....it's manslaugher.....but homicide is a 
                    better generic term....dont you think?
D Skeptic  : Garcetti is afraid of public opinion if he lets the 
                   "monsters" off
Go Leslie  :   MJ, no, you don't, RIKKI does.
Chachee2   : Garcetti better look for a new job>>>
BABS1994   : yes, You are responsible about not using murder--the 
                    other anchors are not
CourtTV10  : Prosecutors would never offer a plea bargain on a 
                    double murder case
D Skeptic  : Yes, you've been good about your choice of words.
Baja Beach : Homicide mean "death of person"  in vague terms..... 
             no action in it's definition.
Chachee2   : but it isn't MURDER.....
Go Leslie  : seeing as how Rikki was so obviously pro-defense in 
                  OJ, it sickens me to see her so propros in this //
Go Leslie  : case
Baja Beach : But , yes....I agree.
CourtTV10  : The charge is murder!!!!
BABS1994   : I'm not so sure about that plea thing--it's been done 
             before
CourtTV10  : That's what I meant
CourtTV10  : The killing is not yet a murder I know
Go Leslie  : Yes, but after two juries both hung 50/50??
JudgeWanaB : "killings" unless they're found guilty
MRC1985    : Charge is murder, but they haven't yet been found 
                    guilty of it.
Baja Beach : Then..... why does ctv keep calling it a "double 
                     murder" trial.
Chachee2   : cause that is the CHARGE...BB
CourtTV10  : It is a murder trial because the charge is murder
Go Leslie  : baja, because thats the charge.
Baja Beach : Why not a "double homicide" trial.
Chachee2   : LOL....
CourtTV10  : just like a rape trial when the charge is rape and so 
             on and so on
BABS1994   : and they could leave out the "shotgunned their 
                   parents to death" thing too
Go Leslie  : baja, get real.
Baja Beach : :-)
Chachee2   : I agree BABS.....Fred Graham likes that one.....
Go Leslie  :   MJ, just promise you'll never say "berries and 
                    cream", ok?
JudgeWanaB : BABS---what's "wrong" with that?
Plinkplunk : well they did shot gun their parents to death.
BABS1994   : they dont have to say it so dramatically every time
Chachee2   : yes, berries and cream.....none of that....
Plinkplunk : They admit that much
D Skeptic  : Yeah please.  Please don't give us the berries and 
                   cream thing.  :-)
Serenity64 : anything but slaughter
CourtTV10  : I will never ever say berries and cream without 
                    putting it in the proper context
JudgeWanaB : MJ--remember, "milky substance"...
Go Leslie  : like....NO berries and cream, right?
Chachee2   : I knew we could count on you MJ.....
Baja Beach : LOL  Judge
Chachee2   : crusty...judge...too
D Skeptic  : What proper context?
CourtTV10  : Yes, you're right... plus, who knows who was eating 
                     it and when.
Go Leslie  :    right.
BABS1994   : do you have anything to do with getting the 
                     transcripts into download?
Chachee2   : it was there for days......
D Skeptic  :      The cup was EMPTY.
CourtTV10  :  You guys all seem to be the biggest defense patsies. 
                     No offense, of course
Go Leslie  :    HEY, MJ, what did you make of the shoe stain the pros 
                     tried to imply was a bloody footprint..
BABS1994   : yeah the cream was there for days like OJ's blood
D Skeptic  : They were NOT eating berries and cream.
MRC1985    : Have you attempted to get an exclusive interview with 
                    Lyle at all MARY JANE?
Baja Beach : OH OH OH OH I almost forgot MJ..... can you get us 
                   some still photos for the download area?
Go Leslie  : and then it turned out to be presumptive negative?
JudgeWanaB : MJ--heard Kittie was a baaaaaaaaaaad 
                      housekeeper...the guys probably weren't much better
Plinkplunk : I was one a defence patsie, but no longer
BABS1994   : what is this patsie statement?
CourtTV10  : I have no acess to still photos.... call associated 
                   press.
Chachee2   : supposedly there are photos being taken....where do 
                    they go??
CourtTV10  : I will give you the number of the guy at AP photo -- 
                     next time, i just realized i dont have
CourtTV10  : it with me
Chachee2   :  haven't seen ONE on CTV
CourtTV10  : Hey all, I gotta go. I have to write an update for my 
                     office
Baja Beach : BTW, associated press will charge us about $80 to 
             $150 per color photo.
CourtTV10  : I don't want to be up all night
MRC1985    : Thank you.
D Skeptic  : You've been great.  Many many thanks.
Go Leslie  : MJ, I don't think most of us are defense patsies. We 
                  just know a tad more about  parricides than..
Chachee2   : Thanks for chatting.....
Go Leslie  : most people do.
Baja Beach : Thanks MJ!  :-)